Cherenkov group meeting, Stockholm, 5-June-2018 Roman Dzhygadlo, GSI, Update on the Barrel DIRC Prototype Test @ CERN Aug 23 – Sep 13, 2017 Results from the prototype test with the 33 degree prism, an arrangement of 3x4 MCP-PMTs and the 3-layer lens from eRD14 were shown. The timing resolution for laser runs was 250ps after walk correction. The geometrical reconstruction for the bar with the 3-layer lens yields a single photon resolution of 9.1 mrad corresponding to 4.25 sigma separation power at 20 degree for pi/p. Erik Etzelmüller, Giessen, Update on the Endcap Disc DIRC Erik showed results for the gluing tests with APM Epicol, Epotek 301-2, and NOA-61. Loads with 15 Nm lead to deformations of 80 um. NOA-61 failed even at low loads. The transmission curves of the glues were measured. NOA-61 showed a clear drop below 400 nm. Also the transmission curves of dichroic filters were taken. They show a shift depending on the incident angle which becomes larger if the filters are placed between fused silica pieces. A setup for measuring the focusing elements is being prepared, the cosmic test stand further equipped. A front end electronics board for the TOFPET chip is being developed. The electronic setup for the next test beam 2018 at CERN was introduced. Markus Pfaffinger, Erlangen, Results with Gießen Sensors and update on lifetime measurements Markus showed an update of the aging tests for the MCP-PMTs. The Hamamatsu YH0250 was added. Most sensors with ALD coating have life times larger than 5 C/cm2 while the non ALD devices have smaller 0.2 C/cm2. The double ALD Photonis tube (1393) has now 19 C/cm2 without damage. Tests in Juelich for the behavior in magnetic fields are prepared. Merlin Böhm, Erlangen, Update for quality assurance measurement setup for MCP-PMTs Merlin prepares the setup for the quality assurance of the MCP-PMTs for PANDA. An x-y-table allows for the scanning of the devices with 5 um position accuracy. He showed the scan of the Hamamatsu R13266-07 YH0245. He observed a huge noise of 15 mV which needs to be closer investigated. Also cross-talk and after pulsing measurements were performed. The time resolution measured with the TRB and PADIWAmp2 was in the order of 130 ps similar to results with PADIWA1 and PADIWA3. Albert Lehmann, Erlangen,Origin of time-over-threshold multi-peaks Albert looked to coherent excitations of MCP-PMTs which were already known from the PLANACON MCP in 2005. He showed that with increasing photon illumination pixels start to coherently ring. Also Hamamatsu YH0250 shows this effect. The ringing starts if ~6-8 photons hit the detector. When ringing is there low thresholds create multi-peaks in TRB ToT and osci pulse heights